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2024-11-09 00:56:06 (UTC) Tomte: “I recreated the swarm here, since I got locked out of the other one. I invited back everyone I could remember. If I’m missing someone can someone with access to the old swarm check and let me know?”

2024-11-09 13:02:52 (UTC) b46a205bc60c241cdadc196c7adcc99a961029d3df992a404485e5743e1a73f7: “We are missing:”

2024-11-09 13:03:02 (UTC) b46a205bc60c241cdadc196c7adcc99a961029d3df992a404485e5743e1a73f7: “4796e391f13cc297850ff501be2fa6cd47c709db)”
2024-11-09 13:03:11 (UTC) b46a205bc60c241cdadc196c7adcc99a961029d3df992a404485e5743e1a73f7: “ee3e0652b933507cb572e047d7a1bfc53895f409)”
2024-11-09 14:54:29 (UTC) Tomte: “I don’t understand…you are here. :)”

2024-11-09 15:01:09 (UTC) b46a205bc60c241cdadc196c7adcc99a961029d3df992a404485e5743e1a73f7:@cityslicker and @_herve_s_)”
2024-11-09 15:01:36 (UTC) b46a205bc60c241cdadc196c7adcc99a961029d3df992a404485e5743e1a73f7:@cityslicker and @\_herve\s\”,“edit”:“3fb5e135c2425bcb05782afdc2220fbdb4be73d3”

2024-11-09 17:43:53 (UTC) Tomte: “Thanks! Everyone should be added back now. :)”

2024-11-09 17:45:08 (UTC) Tomte: “I wish there was a way to have more than one admin for this swarm. That way if i lose access someone else could add me back.”

2024-11-09 17:45:23 (UTC) Tomte: “I might open up an enhancement request for that feature.”

2024-11-10 19:07:02 (UTC) twelfty: “Having the same account on multiple devices sometimes seems to cause issues”

2024-11-11 13:07:11 (UTC) Tomte: “If that’s true that’s really a pity, as I consider mult-device to be an essential feature! (as well as a crucial way to back up the account)”

2024-11-11 13:29:39 (UTC) twelfty: “Well your recent situation is a case in point!”

2024-11-11 14:14:12 (UTC) Tomte: “good point! :)”

2024-11-11 14:16:16 (UTC) Tomte: “Right now I have it installed on one Linux box, one iOS phone, and one Android phone. All three seem to be in sync at the moment and based on this past incident I’m not going to touch it / install any more clients!”

2024-11-11 15:11:44 (UTC) twelfty: “It does seem to sync eventually when they get out of sync, but it can take a while”

2024-11-11 17:38:23 (UTC) twelfty: “Does anyone use Jami with a VPN?”

2024-11-11 17:47:25 (UTC) AmarOk: “I used too yes”

2024-11-11 17:53:50 (UTC) twelfty: “Did you have any issues using Jami with a VPN?”

2024-11-11 18:18:14 (UTC) Tomte: “I can’t say that I’ve used it regularly with a VPN, or really at all. But I did have Jami installed on one of my Linux boxes where I would turn on a VPN regularly.”

2024-11-11 18:19:04 (UTC) Tomte: “It seems like Jami continued to work as I would turn on the VPN for awhile and then turn off the VPN for awhile. At least it didn’t seem to cause any problems. But I can’t remember if any messages came in while it was on the VPN. I know I didn’t send any messages while it was on the VPN.”

2024-11-11 18:19:39 (UTC) twelfty: “Ok. Was just having some trouble with not syncing on iOS but changed vpn settings and it fixed. But that often happens when changing settings, just seems to be wake it up or 01cunstick01d messages.”

2024-11-13 15:08:29 (UTC) AmarOk: “No. I have 5 VPNs for work configured in different way but they are not problematic)”
2024-11-13 15:09:21 (UTC) AmarOk: “Generally a connectivity change will produce a lot of changes in Jami as it needs to recompute a lot of things, so it may reset the connections (except the cached ip for the proxy)”

2024-11-13 15:11:49 (UTC) AmarOk: “Actually I wanted to work on this (adding a more convenient permission system) but I have no time for nowis a way to remove an admin via the voting system, but not promoting one for now)”
2024-11-13 16:07:00 (UTC) twelfty: “I think it was more to do with the WiFi connection that I was on, blocking VPN connections.”

2024-11-13 18:10:55 (UTC) twelfty: “Sigh. I just had to turn Jami off and on again to get it to sync with new messages on iOS.”

2024-11-13 18:36:17 (UTC) twelfty: “I just typed a message on iOS, hit send and it disappeared”

2024-11-13 18:36:28 (UTC) twelfty: “83d”

2024-11-13 18:38:11 (UTC) twelfty: “Typed that last message on a different iOS device and a different network and it sent. Go figure.”

2024-11-13 18:43:33 (UTC) twelfty: “It still seems arbitrary and unreliable on mobile devices. Makes it difficult to convince other people to keep using it.”

2024-11-13 19:39:14 (UTC) Tomte: “That’s exactly what happened to me the other day when I was testing on android. You’d click send and then the message was just vanish. I thought it might have something to do with using Google voice to text but then it did it for one I typed the regular way as well.)”
2024-11-13 20:11:11 (UTC) twelfty: “Did it ever show up??”

2024-11-13 20:11:58 (UTC) twelfty: “Mine did eventually”

2024-11-13 20:12:41 (UTC) Tomte: “No, it disappeared never to return.”

2024-11-13 20:12:59 (UTC) twelfty: “I REALLY want Jami to work. Just not sure other people would put up with this.”

2024-11-13 20:13:22 (UTC) Tomte: “The message I sent up above that was a direct reply to yours, was sent via Android and voice to text, and that time it went through without any issue”

2024-11-13 20:13:29 (UTC) twelfty: “I mean they do put up with it but only because I persist in using it.”

2024-11-13 20:14:58 (UTC) twelfty: “Well I guess these types of incidents are increasingly rare. This chat seems fairly robust.)”
2024-11-13 20:15:10 (UTC) Tomte: “Yeah, I agree on all counts. Jami looks the best of all the p2ps I’ve tried, and when it works it seems to work well. But some of these bugs like disspearing messages, that thing that happened to me where I lost ALL of my conversation just by adding my account to another client, and the inability to export the conversations to an open format mean that I’m not recommending it or using it at this point.)”
2024-11-13 20:15:40 (UTC) Tomte: “However it is tantalizing enough that I will keep on testing it and monitoring progess in the hopes that I can migrate off of Matrix and on to Jami sometime in the future. :)”

2024-11-13 20:19:32 (UTC) Tomte: “Another use case for Jami is that I’m part of another retro-computing community where I have an on again off again podcast. I want to be able to tell people there to install Jami so that I can use it to interview people and than post the audio to the podcast.”

2024-11-13 20:21:15 (UTC) Tomte: “Jami has the ability to save the audio, so it seemed like a perfect way to record interviews. Just have them install Jami on their phone, make a quick account where they don’t have to provide any personal information for signup, and then we’re off to the races!”

2024-11-13 20:27:06 (UTC) AmarOk: “Basically I see 3 possibilities:+ Restarting Jami makes the message re-appears: message was sent to backend, but client was bugguy and didn’t show it+ Message is not appearing, but next messages are appearing after a restart, in this case, probably a deadlock in the backend+ New messages sent are not appearing even after restart: Git repo is in a weird state and new commits are not working)”
2024-11-13 20:27:14 (UTC) twelfty: “Well I'd love to hear how using Jami works out in that use case.)”
2024-11-13 20:27:24 (UTC) AmarOk: “the two last cases are a bug in the daemon (and should be reported with logs ideally)”

2024-11-18 13:16:20 (UTC) Tomte: “Welcome, Adeep! :)”

2024-11-18 13:17:08 (UTC) Adeep: “Thank you. :))”
2024-11-18 13:22:00 (UTC) Adeep: “Does anyone here use Jami on iOS?”

2024-11-18 14:23:18 (UTC) Tomte: “I have Jami installed on an old iOS phone with a cracked screen and no cell service. Just for testing purposes.”

2024-11-18 14:33:01 (UTC) Adeep: “Oh, does your profile picture and chats sync properly to your iOS device?)”
2024-11-18 14:35:08 (UTC) Adeep: “I use Jami on Windows and iOS, but my profile picture and chats don’t sync properly with my iPhone. I have a different profile picture on both devices and I’m unable to access this swarm on my iPhone.”

2024-11-18 14:36:11 (UTC) Adeep: “I use Jami on Windows and iOS, but my profile picture and chats don’t sync properly with my iPhone. I have different profile pictures on both devices and I’m unable to access this swarm on my iPhone.”,“edit”:“2f731ee763c398b8eebebdc996bbe517cdde33a7”

2024-11-18 14:36:57 (UTC) Tomte: “As of right now, everything is in sync between the three devices I am using with this account (1 Linux, 1 Android, and 1 iOS)”

2024-11-18 14:37:38 (UTC) Tomte: “But earlier this morning they were out of sync, and it seemed like the iOS one was not getting updates as quickly as the other two.”

2024-11-18 15:06:30 (UTC) Adeep: “I'm able to access this swarm from my iPhone after I removed my account from the device and added it again. But I still can't see my profile picture on my phone for some reason. :(”

2024-11-18 15:42:20 (UTC) Tomte: “If you wait a few days it might eventually sync up. But that said, I have another account that I’m using on some other devices, and I could never get my profile pic to sync on that one… although I haven’t tested it in awhile.”

2024-11-18 17:17:30 (UTC) Adeep: “Guess I’ll have to wait then. 83d)”
2024-11-18 17:23:07 (UTC) Tomte: “Speaking of icons updating, one weird thing I’ve noticed is that on Linux the "JamiForum" swarm icon never shows any graphics, whereas on the other clients (ios and android) it shows up as a composite of the profile icons of the people in the swarm.”

2024-11-18 17:26:33 (UTC) Adeep: “On Windows, the swarm icon is a composite of yours and @AmarOk’s profile pictures.)”
2024-11-18 17:27:40 (UTC) Adeep: embeddedmedia

2024-11-18 17:28:31 (UTC) Tomte: embeddedmedia

2024-11-18 17:28:52 (UTC) Tomte: “Heh. This is how it looks on Android”

2024-11-18 17:32:49 (UTC) Adeep: “Can’t we preview images on desktop without saving them? 83e”

2024-11-18 17:34:02 (UTC) Tomte: “On linux desktop your screen shot showed up inline in the chat without me having to click on the download button to see it. But the one I sent from Android behaved differently on my Linux desktop. I had to download it before I could see the preview. :(”

2024-11-18 17:36:09 (UTC) Adeep: embeddedmedia

2024-11-18 17:39:49 (UTC) Adeep: “On desktop, the images do show up inline in the chat, but there is no option to view them without saving them to your device.”

2024-11-18 17:40:10 (UTC) AmarOk: “I just click on the image”

2024-11-18 17:40:30 (UTC) AmarOk: “and it opens in the system viewer (shotwell in my case)”

2024-11-18 17:40:34 (UTC) Adeep: “But it doesn’t do anything for me. :()”
2024-11-18 17:40:57 (UTC) AmarOk: “Should be reported in this case”

2024-11-18 17:42:14 (UTC) Adeep: “I don’t have Photos app on my PC. Would that be the reason I’m not able to view images? 83e)”
2024-11-18 17:48:19 (UTC) Adeep: “I installed the Photos app and now I’m able to view images without saving them. 83d”

2024-11-18 20:37:44 (UTC) twelfty: “The preview this is a bit tricky. On iOS I kept jabbing at the image expecting to get a preview but you have to hold for menu options in order to preview”

2024-11-18 20:38:55 (UTC) twelfty: “The preview is a bit tricky. On iOS I kept jabbing at the image expecting to get a preview but you have to hold for menu options in order to preview”,“edit”:“71db047cb8affe161b484df0b4e18c84395ab231”

2024-12-02 13:19:53 (UTC) 46d5fddf9ebfa2623b7843d75cf486cb3ce55db101513608481bbf5a2c9b5a96: “Hi all! I recently started to try out Jami, so I’m quite New. But I think I already found a bug: I created a group and realised, that I am only Admin of this group from the the device where I created the group. On another device I don’t have Admin rights. Did you experience the same?”

2024-12-02 13:39:05 (UTC) AmarOk: “is it the same hash? CAuse admin should be per account”

2024-12-02 13:58:56 (UTC) Adeep: “I tried creating a swarm after seeing your message, but I can’t even see that on my phone. :()”
2024-12-02 14:11:02 (UTC) Tomte: “For this swarm, I show up as Admin on both my phone and desktop.”

2024-12-02 14:29:09 (UTC) 46d5fddf9ebfa2623b7843d75cf486cb3ce55db101513608481bbf5a2c9b5a96: “Interesting, I re-checked it now on both of my phones. Now I Show up as Admin in both. One hour ago when I wrote my last message it was not the case on my second phone. Seems to be an issue of timing and Synchronisation, but now it works as it should.”

2024-12-02 17:35:59 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “Synchronisation does seem to take a while sometimes”

2024-12-05 14:57:43 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “iOS just had an update so testing it out!”

2024-12-05 15:46:54 (UTC) Tomte: “Coming through loud and clear! :)”

2024-12-05 15:51:59 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “This chat seems alot more reliable than others. Just shows how important it is to have a good connection both ends.”

2024-12-05 16:25:12 (UTC) Tomte: “Yeah, that is what gives me hope that Jami could actually be viable once all the bugs are resolved. My use case would be to keep a linux client up and running all the time on my gigabit fiber connection at home, and then that would make my mobile clients work better because they could always route through the always on client. That’s my hope anyway.)”
2024-12-05 16:39:18 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “That's what I would think it's just sometimes the connection only seems to be as good as the weakest link in the chain”

2024-12-11 19:37:11 (UTC) Martin Marot-Perz: “Just for curiosity: Has anyone of you tried out video- or audiocalls in Jami? How good does it work?”

2024-12-12 16:35:43 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “Yes! Works well in my limited experience”

2024-12-12 16:39:40 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “Texting is another matter026”

2024-12-12 16:40:02 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “I just had to toggle this account on and off on iOS to wake it up to sync messages”

2024-12-16 12:41:53 (UTC) 896da354c36c903e1939396e77c5aaa7162b67f9ca0d7d0cb7b5273397a0aac4: {“action”:“remove”,“type”:“member”,“uri”:“ee3e0652b933507cb572e047d7a1bfc53895f409”}

2024-12-16 18:02:03 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “Would anyone be up for testing Jami only on mobile devices for a week?”

2024-12-21 00:14:01 (UTC) Tomte: “Welcome tothe swarm!”

2024-12-22 21:34:09 (UTC) 5ea1d712599e93633cf474d478f3a5831cac0f3fe303c5adc66fe91aca5666d4: “Hi to the new Participants 83d4b”

2025-01-02 00:10:35 (UTC) Tomte: “Welcome to the unoffical JamiForum Swarm :)”

2025-01-02 02:17:17 (UTC) 流言蜚语: “709bf4e2d587684417”

2025-01-03 14:35:33 (UTC) W192547975: “b6372841e0c3efee5b49b49)”
2025-01-04 14:19:45 (UTC) Tomte: “Welcome, new participants!!!”

2025-01-04 14:19:51 (UTC) W192547975: “well1f”

2025-01-04 14:29:38 (UTC) 第一批Jami用户: “fd9fa41cc7097651eabf4e2d58733a48c75ee2d58733a1f”

2025-01-04 14:38:06 (UTC) twelfty: “e0d62f211”

2025-01-04 14:41:47 (UTC) 第一批Jami用户: “f6068463e93a68462f40f4dID0c6be05362f6e0e3a211e24e0d62f97d3cb0c70be0d230bf95b96846359f0”

2025-01-04 14:52:06 (UTC) Adeep: “Why is your name displayed as twelfty on my phone and Bamalamajamagram on my pc? 83d)”
2025-01-04 14:55:51 (UTC) Adeep: embeddedmedia

2025-01-04 23:39:43 (UTC) d44f2bd0818a7c5230728554e27c87ab3be39efce522921b42cd8d5b7b857787: “40cb655ee898)”
2025-01-05 12:48:12 (UTC) Adeep: “Welcome to the swarm!”

2025-01-05 13:00:13 (UTC) 流言蜚语: “927bb697d”

2025-01-05 13:00:58 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “Hello. 83d4b83c)”
2025-01-05 13:02:19 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “Can you see my profile picture?”

2025-01-05 13:04:04 (UTC) 铁锹挖土: “You can see”

2025-01-05 13:04:34 (UTC) 铁锹挖土: “You will”

2025-01-05 13:05:11 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “I can't see it on my pc. 83d83c00d6400f”

2025-01-05 13:06:14 (UTC) 铁锹挖土: “Your profile picture is white, it should look like a girl. )”
2025-01-05 13:08:06 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “Oh”

2025-01-05 13:09:59 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “I can't see your profile picture on my phone.”

2025-01-05 13:12:14 (UTC) 铁锹挖土: “5e0240c13e860c0fd528c3184c0cfd9e2aee540ef1a6f45b097d6840c176b9e21101262fe0c71bf003d1ef42a4eba458728fd91ccfb921befae00e2afa404a”

2025-01-05 13:14:50 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0:@AmarOk You're one of the developers, right? 83d”

2025-01-05 15:59:48 (UTC) AmarOk: “I was a core dev for ~7 years yes”

2025-01-05 16:00:04 (UTC) AmarOk: “But I left the project 7 months ago”

2025-01-06 15:00:54 (UTC) Adeep: “Welcome to the swarm!”

2025-01-06 15:05:54 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Hi ppl!”

2025-01-06 15:12:05 (UTC) Tomte: “Welcome new participants!”

2025-01-06 15:12:47 (UTC) Adeep: “Hello. 83d4b83c)”
2025-01-06 15:15:11 (UTC) Tomte: “wow, we’ve really had some increased interest over the past week. :) 20 invites, and 10 have accepted the invite. Hopefully we are still not having a problem with stuck invites.”

2025-01-06 15:17:33 (UTC) Adeep: “Did anyone reject your invitation? I don’t see 10 pending invitations. 83e)”
2025-01-06 15:23:25 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Im aware of jami since 3-4 years I think”

2025-01-06 15:23:55 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “And like two times I gave it a try with my friends, but still not usable”

2025-01-06 15:24:08 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Last time was like two years ago”

2025-01-06 15:24:20 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “The problem was lost messages and stuck messages”

2025-01-06 15:25:20 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Aaand. It really lacks some catalog of rooms. It costed me like 20 min of googling just to find the link”

2025-01-06 15:25:43 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “And what is your experience?”

2025-01-06 15:26:25 (UTC) Tomte: “I’ve never seen a notification saying that anything was ever rejected.)”
2025-01-06 15:27:16 (UTC) Tomte: embeddedmedia

2025-01-06 15:27:41 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Just trying reactiona”

2025-01-06 15:27:49 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Just trying reactions”,“edit”:“d3b2d395d9ae22c88e63227f456499774c0992ca”

2025-01-06 15:27:56 (UTC) Tomte: “lots of invites just sitting there.”

2025-01-06 15:28:03 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “And editing works… wtf? O.o”

2025-01-06 15:28:34 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Hmm”

2025-01-06 15:28:59 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Aand, deleting?”

2025-01-06 15:29:07 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Wow”

2025-01-06 15:29:17 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Tremendous progress”

2025-01-06 15:30:23 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “And how is the data usage?”

2025-01-06 15:31:13 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “I see that its pretty hi”

2025-01-06 15:31:31 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Jami used like 200MB in two days withous I using it”

2025-01-06 15:43:11 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Tomte, and for you?”

2025-01-06 16:21:06 (UTC) Adeep: “Oh, did anyone join the swarm and leave? 83e)”
2025-01-06 16:24:03 (UTC) Adeep: “Jami works really well on my pc, but I do experience issues on my iPhone.)”
2025-01-06 16:32:00 (UTC) Adeep: “On my phone, Tomte’s status is shown as ‘available’ (yellow colour) even when he’s connected.”

2025-01-06 16:32:14 (UTC) Adeep: “On my phone, Tomte’s status is shown as ‘available’ (yellow colour) even though he’s connected.”,“edit”:“339801c2baa6d15f2868d45ad91c65224820555b”

2025-01-06 16:34:41 (UTC) Adeep: “On my phone, Tomte’s status is displayed as ‘available’ (yellow colour) even though he’s connected.”,“edit”:“339801c2baa6d15f2868d45ad91c65224820555b”

2025-01-06 16:42:46 (UTC) Tomte: “I have two clients installed with the "Tomte" account. One on Linux Mint that is always on, and another iOS client. So maybe the yellow comes from the mobile client.”

2025-01-06 16:44:46 (UTC) Tomte: “I have not measured my data usage with Jami. I have gigabit fiber so should not be an issue. :)”

2025-01-06 16:45:07 (UTC) Adeep: “Do you see a yellow dot near my profile on your phone? 83d)”
2025-01-06 16:45:41 (UTC) Tomte: “yes)”
2025-01-06 16:46:03 (UTC) Tomte: “you are green on my desktop client, but yellow on the mobile one.”

2025-01-06 16:46:55 (UTC) Adeep: “Oh)”
2025-01-06 16:48:35 (UTC) Adeep: “I just checked my online status. It’s online now, but sometimes it’s displayed as ‘connecting’ or ‘unknown’. 83d83c00d6400f”

2025-01-06 17:08:01 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: embeddedmedia

2025-01-06 17:08:13 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Its from my phone”

2025-01-06 17:13:42 (UTC) Adeep: “What happened to Jami’s forum?”

2025-01-06 17:21:06 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “But for mobile it is a problem :/)”
2025-01-06 17:21:28 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Probably it is a general p2p issue”

2025-01-06 17:21:43 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Tox has the same problem and is not usable on phones”

2025-01-06 17:51:42 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “That’s the problem of why programs don’t fullfil user expectations 83d)”
2025-01-06 18:00:14 (UTC) Tomte: “This looks like the second time that Jami’s web based forums have gotten a bunch of Spam.)”
2025-01-06 18:01:05 (UTC) Tomte: “They should use Jami for their forums; it would help accelerate the discovery of bugs, and also avoid spam”

2025-01-06 18:01:20 (UTC) Tomte: “Although there are not a lot of moderation tools yet for Jami (that I know of)”

2025-01-06 22:45:33 (UTC) AmarOk: “seems a bit high. But depends on a lot of things)”
2025-01-06 22:45:57 (UTC) AmarOk: “not using it doesn’t mean a lot when you have conv. But by default, a dht needs to sync for peers”

2025-01-06 22:46:19 (UTC) AmarOk: “but yeah editing/deleting/reactions were added some years ago)”
2025-01-06 22:47:27 (UTC) AmarOk: “would be hard for now as there is no discovery of topics/public swarm)”
2025-01-06 22:48:03 (UTC) AmarOk: “I’ll probably try to contribute agian during the next months at least to add the ability for adding/removing administratos”

2025-01-08 00:22:02 (UTC) 铁锹挖土: “211eabfb9684eba52868462f2f979c24b73a0c3ef62f2f979c728fd9e2a7305b9e76e0d0fde0bf7d”

2025-01-08 15:34:39 (UTC) 铁锹挖土: “To solve the problem of Apple’s mobile phone downloading on the mainland, I should know some people who can drive the use of this software.”

2025-01-09 12:08:09 (UTC) 流言蜚语: embeddedmedia

2025-01-09 13:08:57 (UTC) Tomte: “This forum disappeared from my list of forums about three days ago; this morning it suddenly reappeared! Very weird Jami bug.”

2025-01-09 16:04:50 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “We need to log all these issues”

2025-01-09 16:04:54 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “https://git.jami.net/savoirfairelinux”

2025-01-10 13:49:30 (UTC) W192547975: “I found that usernames are synced only when changes are made from the computer, and changes made on the phone are never synced.”

2025-01-10 16:47:29 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “Usernames can't be changed. Are you are talking about profile names? 83d)”
2025-01-10 20:22:14 (UTC) d44f2bd0818a7c5230728554e27c87ab3be39efce522921b42cd8d5b7b857787: “Yes (I translated this by myself without machines))”
2025-01-10 20:32:24 (UTC) d44f2bd0818a7c5230728554e27c87ab3be39efce522921b42cd8d5b7b857787: “Yes (I translated this by myself without machines))”
2025-01-10 21:17:42 (UTC) d44f2bd0818a7c5230728554e27c87ab3be39efce522921b42cd8d5b7b857787: {“action”:“remove”,“type”:“member”,“uri”:“062e4795bad756f8737b3d0dc6c98a1af7e93b4b”}

2025-01-11 07:30:02 (UTC) d44f2bd0818a7c5230728554e27c87ab3be39efce522921b42cd8d5b7b857787: “Well?”

2025-01-11 07:30:10 (UTC) d44f2bd0818a7c5230728554e27c87ab3be39efce522921b42cd8d5b7b857787: “I come back!”

2025-01-11 17:31:56 (UTC) John1234: {“confId”:“8176664119466459”,“device”:“6ce48d56c0d4394068fcae22bdb1d1bfb04e02c72146c66a85d72b18bffcbf83”,“type”:“application/call-history+json”,“uri”:“1fe58d76f1bfa86cd61ff94cdaf2860516a2d9f8”}

2025-01-11 18:50:32 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “What is call here?”

2025-01-12 14:20:50 (UTC) John1234: {“confId”:“8176664119466459”,“device”:“6ce48d56c0d4394068fcae22bdb1d1bfb04e02c72146c66a85d72b18bffcbf83”,“duration”:“74934000”,“type”:“application/call-history+json”,“uri”:“1fe58d76f1bfa86cd61ff94cdaf2860516a2d9f8”}

2025-01-12 14:21:05 (UTC) John1234: “7640f”

2025-01-12 14:21:07 (UTC) John1234: “7640f”

2025-01-18 02:00:47 (UTC) 铁锹挖土: embeddedmedia

2025-01-18 04:11:28 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “How to create a group without inviting somebody?”

2025-01-18 04:15:05 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “swarm:b1d322feeae8003e73c4fdd535b08c9e83cab0d2”

2025-01-18 04:16:11 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “Click on create group option without selecting anyone.)”
2025-01-18 04:16:31 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Just created a groupAbout How To Stay Anonymous And Why”

2025-01-18 04:16:54 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Then the button is disabled )”
2025-01-18 04:17:42 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “Can you record your screen?)”
2025-01-18 04:17:42 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “And how can the ppl join the group? Or is invite needed?”

2025-01-18 04:18:36 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: embeddedmedia

2025-01-18 04:18:53 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “You have to invite them. Jami groups don't have invite links.)”
2025-01-18 04:19:37 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Do you see the disabled button?)”
2025-01-18 04:20:01 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “Yeah”

2025-01-18 04:20:30 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “But I'm able to create groups without adding people.”

2025-01-18 04:21:58 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “Do you have a PC?”

2025-01-18 04:21:59 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Hmm.”

2025-01-18 04:22:11 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “From Jami desktop?”

2025-01-18 04:22:50 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Yes, but Jami only on a phone”

2025-01-18 04:23:09 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Jami on PC is bloated like a fat bitch xD”

2025-01-18 04:23:36 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Near 0.5GB”

2025-01-18 04:24:02 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Something is wrong with deb package there”

2025-01-18 04:25:20 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “Oh”

2025-01-18 04:26:16 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “How did you create this group?)”
2025-01-18 04:27:06 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “I invited some abandoned contact”

2025-01-18 04:27:18 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “And the button turned on”

2025-01-18 04:32:35 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “Oh, I think you should create a new issue at https://git.jami.net/savoirfairelinux/jami-client-android/-/issues/”

2025-01-18 04:33:20 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “Oh, I think you should create a new issue in Jami's Android repository.”,“edit”:“773a3dff7d491686f6ee236008d72f62e88e2094”

2025-01-18 04:33:23 (UTC) 08c6c53070090dd6fd81c2e8b27b8866bac1d5998cc3bfc4ecb6580200f765e0: “https://git.jami.net/savoirfairelinux/jami-client-android/-/issues/”

2025-01-18 04:34:51 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “OK, I will try”

2025-01-18 04:35:11 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “And other thing, are there some invite bots ?”

2025-01-18 04:35:57 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “I mean that the joining to the group would succeed on behalf of member, and not waiting for invite from admin”

2025-01-18 12:09:01 (UTC) W192547975: “myself, well ,it’s the account whose name is Recovery: cf991304c54823d4be1fbebc32bfd5ffa7da62ba)”
2025-01-18 13:09:28 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Is Recovery a bot?”

2025-01-18 13:11:18 (UTC) W192547975: “I’m still running it manually because I don’t know how to automate it in Jami.)”
2025-01-18 13:11:55 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “What do you mean manually?”

2025-01-18 13:20:32 (UTC) W192547975: “Oh no, I had some problems with my client and I restarted Jami.”

2025-01-18 13:22:12 (UTC) W192547975: embeddedmedia

2025-01-18 13:22:28 (UTC) W192547975: “I receive the keyword, copy and paste it into the search box, then list the results and send them back.”

2025-01-18 13:30:24 (UTC) W192547975: “I usually make new groups registered on Recovery public in the groups I maintain, but those groups are currently in Chinese.”

2025-01-18 13:33:39 (UTC) 53274c8595c309c700f4d39f8d9f338650e4787a5905ed72d1fa498aad6ca080: “why do you need so many groups? is it some kind of spam or a way to advertice corpos?)”
2025-01-18 13:35:06 (UTC) W192547975: “Those are some of the areas where I plan to use Jami, many of which have never invited anyone.)”
2025-01-18 13:36:56 (UTC) 53274c8595c309c700f4d39f8d9f338650e4787a5905ed72d1fa498aad6ca080: “do you mean like local areas? I saw something similar on telegram, but I didn’t use them.)”
2025-01-18 13:38:18 (UTC) 53274c8595c309c700f4d39f8d9f338650e4787a5905ed72d1fa498aad6ca080: “do you mean like local areas, like towns or districts? I saw something similar on telegram, but I didn’t use them.”,“edit”:“4075e73d4ea9c16b87bb91583e7ee8acc06e9442”

2025-01-18 13:39:12 (UTC) W192547975: “No, I’m using a machine translation of the word "8867df". wait, it should be domain?”

2025-01-18 13:40:28 (UTC) 53274c8595c309c700f4d39f8d9f338650e4787a5905ed72d1fa498aad6ca080: “for me it would be nice to have multiple admins, so the group can be maintaned 24h by multiple people.”

2025-01-18 13:40:34 (UTC) W192547975: “it seems not)”
2025-01-18 13:42:24 (UTC) 53274c8595c309c700f4d39f8d9f338650e4787a5905ed72d1fa498aad6ca080: “i don’t understand. can you use ai for translations. I am sure it could be more precise.”

2025-01-18 13:45:10 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “Try to use gpt one (just sharring some credits with you): https://nano-gpt.com/invite/NnFfWik6”

2025-01-18 13:45:32 (UTC) W192547975: “Well, it’s a specific use of Jami, and people who use Jami for the same purpose are pulled into the same group to talk about it instead of the general chat. Okay, which word might be "topic.")”
2025-01-18 13:47:03 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “Ok, as I undertsand you are looking for something similar like Slack/Discord has.)”
2025-01-18 13:48:54 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: embeddedmedia

2025-01-18 13:49:57 (UTC) W192547975: “But it doesn’t need to be accessed through easily blocked websites.)”
2025-01-18 13:52:22 (UTC) W192547975: “Or accept the restrictive terms requested by the software developer.)”
2025-01-18 13:53:37 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “Sorry mate, no offence, but I would recoomend you to find some better translator or as I showed you ai example. I completly out of guess what are you talking about.”

2025-01-18 13:53:51 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “Sorry mate, no offence, but I would recommend you to find some better translator or as I showed you ai example. I completly out of guess what are you talking about.”,“edit”:“3afc40dd6d400f9fd394ad4d91d02851a5054cb1”

2025-01-18 13:55:55 (UTC) W192547975: “That’s true. I even had to correct some obvious translation mistakes from time to time.)”
2025-01-18 17:22:04 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “It didnt work somehow)”
2025-01-18 17:22:15 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “When delete "swarm:" : Anonymity On The Web”

2025-01-18 17:22:24 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “That said the Recovery”

2025-01-18 22:32:04 (UTC) W192547975: “"swarm:" is the prefix in the mobile version, when searched on the computer version. This prefix cannot be used.)”
2025-01-18 22:33:15 (UTC) W192547975: “There were some translation errors, so I made a change, but the change was not received successfully.”

2025-01-19 02:12:45 (UTC) W192547975: “Better results like this:”

2025-01-19 02:12:45 (UTC) W192547975: embeddedmedia

2025-01-20 00:44:06 (UTC) W192547975: embeddedmedia

2025-01-20 00:44:08 (UTC) W192547975: “Oh”

2025-01-20 00:50:52 (UTC) W192547975: “There seems to have been a merge storm after I quit and rejoined the group.”

2025-01-20 19:18:24 (UTC) Tomte: “wwelcome new members!”

2025-01-20 19:24:56 (UTC) ребка на пк: “noice”

2025-01-20 19:29:11 (UTC) desktop: “Why did I receive two similar trust requests?”

2025-01-20 19:29:33 (UTC) ребка на пк: “in call?”

2025-01-20 19:29:35 (UTC) ребка на пк: “or what?”

2025-01-20 19:30:54 (UTC) ребка на пк: embeddedmedia

2025-01-20 19:30:54 (UTC) ребка на пк: “maybe is it because im still using same account on different Jami clients? (snap and debian)”

2025-01-20 19:31:10 (UTC) desktop: “Why did I receive two similar trust requests, JamiForum (swarm ID: 27c4df046b23463fe4795065f5ca42f6bbd85ed5) and JamiForumSwarm?”,“edit”:“cb0a6b95f3ad7336d18f1ea42ec8a48392e33039”

2025-01-20 19:31:19 (UTC) ребка на пк: “owh”

2025-01-20 19:31:27 (UTC) ребка на пк: “You are about it.”

2025-01-20 19:31:33 (UTC) ребка на пк: “I don’t know, too.”

2025-01-20 20:32:57 (UTC) ребка на пк: “Anyone is used wherever the Imperium Browser?”

2025-01-20 20:33:39 (UTC) ребка на пк: “Yet im tryed to install it on LMDE 6 and he isn’t working.”

2025-01-20 20:52:50 (UTC) desktop: “Imperium, sounds like a video game.”

2025-01-20 21:27:53 (UTC) desktop: “I tried to modify the jami-plugins example to apply ffmpeg filtergraph "[input]tremolo=f=70:d=0.7", but can’t get it to work.83d3f”

2025-01-20 21:27:53 (UTC) desktop:

2025-01-20 21:35:14 (UTC) desktop: “I tried to modify the jami-plugins example to apply ffmpeg filtergraph "[input]tremolo=f=70:d=0.7", but can’t get it to work on Android.83d3f”,“edit”:“afbca62206315998c72684f4313d1d3d122418da”

2025-01-21 07:54:22 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “Jami is so weird and random. I clicked to remove member from my group (swarm). And it says "Member has been blocked" 83d”

2025-01-21 07:57:12 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “Desktop:”

2025-01-21 07:57:12 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: embeddedmedia

2025-01-21 07:58:02 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “Android:”

2025-01-21 07:58:02 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: embeddedmedia

2025-01-21 07:58:30 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “What a mess. Who is developing that app?”

2025-01-21 08:00:11 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “Everything is so amateur.”

2025-01-21 08:04:42 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: embeddedmedia

2025-01-21 08:05:43 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: embeddedmedia

2025-01-21 08:08:47 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “So I clicked "Remove member" as the screenshot above with the red arrow. On the Android version it says "Member blocked". On the Desktop you can see there are two options: Block Contact and Kick Member. Don’t you think this is a mess? Who is responsible for such a mess?”

2025-01-21 08:11:38 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “This is just one of the examples. Calls are messy. Video is pixelated. Canstant drops on call. No communication. Wrong usernames and contacts, laggy, no responsive UI (dev have no idea what the asyc is for). and so on. Jami is so messy as hell. 83e2f”

2025-01-21 08:12:04 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “This is just one of the examples. Calls are messy. Video is pixelated. Constant call drops. No communication. Wrong usernames and contacts, laggy, no responsive UI (dev have no idea what the asyc is for). and so on. Jami is so messy as hell. 83e2f”,“edit”:“bd78665df718d3ae52a503bdafd6327d305449af”

2025-01-21 08:13:30 (UTC) W192547975: “Do we now have a good way to easily recompile source code? This is the biggest obstacle to my research on Jami’s design.)”
2025-01-21 08:15:52 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “Another example: https://git.jami.net/savoirfairelinux/jami-client-android/-/issues/1843”

2025-01-21 08:21:14 (UTC) desktop: “For qt client, take a look at "extras/packaging". For android client, you can use build metadata on fdroid.)”
2025-01-21 08:24:15 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “This is just one of the examples. Calls are messy. Video is pixelated. Constant call drops. No communication. Wrong usernames and contacts, laggy, no responsive UI (dev have no idea what the asyc is for). and so on. Jami is so messy and buggy as hell. 83e2f I wonder how the code looks like inside, like a spagetty, and wonder who want to look at that code and try to understand it 83e”,“edit”:“bd78665df718d3ae52a503bdafd6327d305449af”

2025-01-21 08:26:27 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “This is just one of the examples. Calls are messy. Video is pixelated. Constant call drops. No communication. Wrong usernames and contacts, laggy, no responsive UI (dev have no idea what the asyc is for). and so on. Jami is so messy and buggy as hell. 83e2f I wonder how the code looks like inside, like a spagetty, and wonder who want to look at that code and try to understand it 83ehope dev can go back to school and learn SOLID and KISS principles first.”,“edit”:“bd78665df718d3ae52a503bdafd6327d305449af”

2025-01-21 08:26:39 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “This is just one of the examples. Calls are messy. Video is pixelated. Constant call drops. No communication. Wrong usernames and contacts, laggy, no responsive UI (dev have no idea what the asyc is for). and so on. Jami is so messy and buggy as hell. 83e2f I wonder how the code looks like inside, like a spagetty, and wonder who want to look at that code and try to understand it 83ehope devs can go back to school and learn SOLID and KISS principles first.”,“edit”:“bd78665df718d3ae52a503bdafd6327d305449af”

2025-01-21 08:26:58 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “This is just one of the examples. Calls are messy. Video is pixelated. Constant call drops. No communication. Wrong usernames and contacts, laggy, no responsive UI (dev have no idea what the asyc is for). and so on. Jami is so messy and buggy as hell. 83e2f I wonder how the code looks like inside, like a spagetty, and wonder who want to look at that code and try to understand it 83ehope devs can go back to school and learn SOLID and KISS programming principles first.”,“edit”:“bd78665df718d3ae52a503bdafd6327d305449af”

2025-01-21 08:29:20 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “This is just one of the examples. Calls are messy. Video is pixelated. Constant call drops. No communication. Wrong usernames and contacts, laggy, no responsive UI (dev have no idea what the asyc is for). and so on. Jami is so messy and buggy as hell. 83e2f I wonder how the code looks like inside, like a spagetty, and wonder who want to look at that code and try to understand it 83ehope devs can go back to school and learn SOLID and KISS programming principles first. Without those two magic words the project is going to fail. Failure means you can never fix it, one fix introduces 5 more bugs and it goes on forever till the final falire. I saw such projects before and their failures.”,“edit”:“bd78665df718d3ae52a503bdafd6327d305449af”

2025-01-21 11:58:39 (UTC) W192547975: “I don’t know where "extras/packaging" is, and fdroid has been blocked.)”
2025-01-21 13:19:12 (UTC) desktop: “https://git.jami.net/savoirfairelinux/jami-client-qt/-/tree/master/extras/packaging?ref_type=heads://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/tree/master/metadata/cx.ring.yml)”
2025-01-21 15:24:42 (UTC) Tomte: “Another weird issue I have seen is when I click on someone on the contact list to invite them to the swarm it will sometimes but not always end up inviting everyone on the list 83d1e”

2025-01-21 15:31:20 (UTC) AmarOk: “En fait cette fonctionnalit0e9 existe d0e9j0e0 c0f4t0e9 backend”

2025-01-22 08:17:33 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “0c0 l'expr0e8s ?”

2025-01-23 13:14:08 (UTC) e982f52b3fa59b7993b1f02c04319a54ebcfe6cd68a4417419369957e3192c1d: “f6097d0c211728fd90ca0d40e6de90d”

2025-01-23 13:17:34 (UTC) 电脑01: “f6097d0c6ee24d211f88fd90cf46f1ac3dfeb6de90df60002”

2025-01-25 18:03:44 (UTC) ребка на пк: “who in online?”

2025-01-25 18:46:32 (UTC) ребка на пк: “same problem)”
2025-01-25 22:00:55 (UTC) 53274c8595c309c700f4d39f8d9f338650e4787a5905ed72d1fa498aad6ca080: “https://youtu.be/nHQv4blla7g”

2025-01-26 17:05:42 (UTC) e982f52b3fa59b7993b1f02c04319a54ebcfe6cd68a4417419369957e3192c1d: “what’s this?)”
2025-01-27 14:50:53 (UTC) ребка на пк: “random video”

2025-01-27 18:37:56 (UTC) ребка на пк: “Made in Krita.”

2025-01-27 18:37:56 (UTC) ребка на пк: embeddedmedia

2025-01-27 20:27:34 (UTC) Tomte: “Very nice!”

2025-01-28 07:34:39 (UTC) e982f52b3fa59b7993b1f02c04319a54ebcfe6cd68a4417419369957e3192c1d: “83d4d”

2025-01-28 15:04:10 (UTC) ребка на пк: “thx”

2025-01-28 15:05:05 (UTC) ребка на пк: “So sad that so many peoples stille use centralized messaging networks, instead of decentralized p2p-non-federated.”

2025-01-28 15:06:15 (UTC) ребка на пк: “So sad that so many peoples still use centralized messaging networks, instead of decentralized p2p-non-federated.”,“edit”:“ba5598e5df90813efc32ced1412ca0c1a68577d2”,“type”:“application/edited-message”}

2025-01-28 15:06:23 (UTC) ребка на пк: “So sad that so many peoples still using centralized messaging networks, instead of decentralized p2p-non-federated.”,“edit”:“ba5598e5df90813efc32ced1412ca0c1a68577d2”,“type”:“application/edited-message”}

2025-01-28 17:40:55 (UTC) Free Lancer: “So many people still have to surf inside the CCP wall,Suffering censorship anywhere”

2025-01-28 17:43:05 (UTC) Free Lancer: “Almost all chinese people can never live without CCP’s spy app like Wechat, Alipay and TikTok”

2025-01-28 17:44:08 (UTC) Free Lancer: “I feel really hurt, as it come to my mind”

2025-01-28 20:32:34 (UTC) ребка на пк:

2025-01-29 10:27:43 (UTC) John1234: “1”

2025-01-30 19:16:06 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “Another interesting story. If I send a message from PC, it won’t appear on mobile till the person receives it. There is no sync until it gets read by the recipient.”

2025-02-01 22:49:58 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Its very simple. The most of ppl don’t give a fuck about censorship )”
2025-02-01 22:50:25 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “Its very simple. The most of ppl just don’t give a fuck about censorship”,“edit”:“e2d95af40e8845d083af49ce15382537e1cb40e8”

2025-02-03 15:05:21 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: embeddedmedia

2025-02-03 15:05:30 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “desktop app”

2025-02-03 15:05:35 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “on windows”

2025-02-03 15:07:26 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “Also there are other issues. For example:following url is not treated as url: "https://track.dpd.co.uk/parcels/1597679341234512345 "”

2025-02-03 15:08:06 (UTC)* 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: embeddedmedia

2025-02-03 15:08:59 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca:”Labels are overlap:”

2025-02-03 15:08:59 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: embeddedmedia

2025-02-03 15:10:01 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: embeddedmedia

2025-02-03 15:13:55 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “There is no version number. I cannot find it anywhere:”

2025-02-03 15:13:55 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: embeddedmedia

2025-02-03 15:17:32 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “Also apps is crashing when I go to troubleshot.:”

2025-02-03 15:17:32 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: embeddedmedia

2025-02-03 15:17:42 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “Also the app is crashing when I go to troubleshot.:”,“edit”:“4ec88f67f9a3b73e6ea6102492aed595ca7fbb59”

2025-02-03 15:19:10 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “The scroll is not usable on the desktop at all.”

2025-02-03 15:19:10 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: embeddedmedia

2025-02-04 11:49:49 (UTC) W192547975: “Here)”
2025-02-04 11:49:53 (UTC) W192547975: embeddedmedia
2025-02-04 11:50:45 (UTC) W192547975: “Or this)”
2025-02-04 11:50:46 (UTC) W192547975: embeddedmedia
2025-02-04 14:41:44 (UTC) desktop: “83d2dI have no idea why bumping qt version caused this. 83d43There is a workaround, insert "flickDeceleration: 0.1" to MessageListView.qml then rebuild, and scroll by dragging instead of rolling the scroll wheel.)”
2025-02-07 13:00:00 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “Jami calls got constantly disconnected. After few minutes of conversation (audio only) the Jami disconnects and the comes back after a minute or so. Jami is completely not usable.”

2025-02-07 13:00:25 (UTC) 982edfd18b8fc03e9f6c656ddf71738a72dbf112db6e9ea46d5d09a1777c08ca: “Jami calls got constantly disconnected. After few minutes of conversation (audio only) the Jami disconnects and then comes back after a minute or so. Jami is completely not usable.”,“edit”:“7886e9a4a45af565b27825bb6dfeac4fd3d10f74”

2025-02-10 14:57:32 (UTC) John1234: {“confId”:“6290193542017920”,“device”:“6ce48d56c0d4394068fcae22bdb1d1bfb04e02c72146c66a85d72b18bffcbf83”,“type”:“application/call-history+json”,“uri”:“1fe58d76f1bfa86cd61ff94cdaf2860516a2d9f8”}

2025-02-11 14:27:05 (UTC) 电脑01: “83d0e”

2025-02-11 14:57:52 (UTC) John1234: {“confId”:“6290193542017920”,“device”:“6ce48d56c0d4394068fcae22bdb1d1bfb04e02c72146c66a85d72b18bffcbf83”,“duration”:“86420000”,“type”:“application/call-history+json”,“uri”:“1fe58d76f1bfa86cd61ff94cdaf2860516a2d9f8”}

2025-03-09 19:58:23 (UTC) a22388a4b8019488a368a2bb6f5530d46c914a8eaec746dd1122d2c0b2db2535: “What I see, that jami syncs like 1 time in two days. I get then a couple of messages”

2025-03-20 14:33:21 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “At the risk of stating the obvious, Jami really seems to need a good internet connection”

2025-03-31 09:08:14 (UTC) desktop: {“action”:“remove”,“type”:“member”,“uri”:“4a03878dac4655b55baef406294b5462e14322a7”}

2025-04-12 19:11:14 (UTC) acbc: “83d4d”

2025-04-13 11:17:14 (UTC) acbc: “83d4d”

2025-04-26 18:24:26 (UTC) Dantes: “Hello everyone”

2025-04-26 18:25:18 (UTC) Tomte: “Welcome Dantes!”

2025-04-26 18:25:59 (UTC) Dantes: “Sorry, I probably did a mess and invited someone (you?) again”

2025-04-26 18:26:32 (UTC) Dantes: “Swarms still support up to 8 memebers or the limit has been increased?”

2025-04-26 18:26:55 (UTC) Tomte: “I’ve done that myself. The "invite" button has a list of both users and groups so its very easy to invite one group into another group. No harm done”

2025-04-26 18:27:02 (UTC) Tomte: “I think the limit has increased.”

2025-04-26 18:27:18 (UTC) Tomte: “looks like this swarm is up to 43 members. :)”

2025-04-26 18:28:16 (UTC) Dantes: “Very good! Now I found the "members" tab and I see the 43 members :)”

2025-04-26 18:30:29 (UTC) Tomte: “I just added a custom icon for the swarm. We’ll see if this breaks the swarm (I think that particular bug did get fixed a number of months ago.)”

2025-04-26 18:31:29 (UTC) Dantes: “I see the old one. Probably it takes some time to update”

2025-04-26 18:54:41 (UTC) Dantes: “Android can’t sync the account. Is anyone syncing 2 or more devices?”

2025-04-26 19:09:20 (UTC) Tomte: “I’m syncing two different linux desktops. I was syncing with Android two many months ago, but it was affecting battery life and also didn’t sync consistently.”

2025-04-26 19:13:35 (UTC) Tomte: “Making this post from android”

2025-04-26 19:14:16 (UTC) Tomte: “Weird that I can see Dantes posts but not the ones I made from Linux desktop version”

2025-04-26 19:15:13 (UTC) Dantes: “I’m also afraid of battery and data usage. But now I’m at home on the same LAN of my Desktop”

2025-04-26 19:19:39 (UTC) Tomte: “Ok now my Linux desktop post synced up”

2025-04-26 19:24:17 (UTC) Dantes: “I try to reinstall the android app”

2025-04-26 19:46:29 (UTC) Dantes: “Now it worked. I had to re-export the backup from my desktop and load it in the Android app, but now it synced correctly”

2025-04-26 19:56:59 (UTC) Dantes: “The app correctly synced the messages. I tried to write a message about 15mins ago, did you receive anything? I can’t see the message I sent from android on my desktop. (This message is written using the Desktop version)”

2025-04-26 20:17:06 (UTC) Tomte: “I received this message. :))”
2025-04-26 20:17:51 (UTC) Tomte: “On all three devices that I’m syncing”

2025-04-27 06:11:38 (UTC) Dantes: “I see your replies on my android device, not on my desktop. They were both ON for more than 1 hour, but they can’t sync.”

2025-04-27 06:12:55 (UTC) Dantes: “Unfortunately Jami is still not reliable 83d I’m not even sure your will ever see this message considering that you have not received my messages sent from Android yesterday…”

2025-04-27 07:48:22 (UTC) 53274c8595c309c700f4d39f8d9f338650e4787a5905ed72d1fa498aad6ca080: “The problem with Jami as far as I can see is lack of management. every successful project requires someone to control the project development. at the current moment devs just do whatever they want. there must be milestones and work done based on user feedback and requirements made by project manager with prioritization. instead of "open source" - do whatever you want. see https://youtu.be/nHQv4blla7g”

2025-04-27 08:06:44 (UTC) 53274c8595c309c700f4d39f8d9f338650e4787a5905ed72d1fa498aad6ca080: “for example, if there are connectivity issues, that task must be a high priority and devs must stop doing enything else, but fix the issue. instead of waiting years when someone would pick that task.”

2025-04-27 08:12:27 (UTC) 53274c8595c309c700f4d39f8d9f338650e4787a5905ed72d1fa498aad6ca080: “also biggest issues of jami is lack of automatic error reports. devs have no idea what is going on, and it requires a ton of time to reproduce the issue, IF user manages to find some time and afford to send a request, which is not obvious and requires registration and technical knowledge, like to generate and find and upload error log who knows where.”

2025-04-27 08:13:18 (UTC) 53274c8595c309c700f4d39f8d9f338650e4787a5905ed72d1fa498aad6ca080: “also biggest issues of jami is lack of automatic error reports. devs have no idea what is going on, and it requires a ton of time to reproduce the issue, IF user manages to find some time and afford to send a request (<1%), which is not obvious and requires registration and technical knowledge, like to generate and find and upload error log who knows where.”,“edit”:“aa31f50cfd2499705f966443b9856d5143dcd6a4”

2025-04-27 08:13:42 (UTC) 53274c8595c309c700f4d39f8d9f338650e4787a5905ed72d1fa498aad6ca080: “also biggest issues of jami is lack of automatic error reports. devs have no idea what is going on, and it requires a ton of time to reproduce the issue, IF user manages to find some time and afford to send a request (<1%), which is not obvious and requires registration and technical knowledge, like to generate and find and upload error log.”,“edit”:“aa31f50cfd2499705f966443b9856d5143dcd6a4”

2025-04-27 08:14:19 (UTC) 53274c8595c309c700f4d39f8d9f338650e4787a5905ed72d1fa498aad6ca080: “also biggest issues of jami is lack of automatic error reports. devs have no idea what is going on, and it requires a ton of time to reproduce the issue, IF user manages to find some time and afford to send a request (<1%), which is not obvious and requires registration and technical knowledge, like to generate and find and upload error log. and that’s not obvious for most of the users.”,“edit”:“aa31f50cfd2499705f966443b9856d5143dcd6a4”

2025-04-27 08:23:36 (UTC) 53274c8595c309c700f4d39f8d9f338650e4787a5905ed72d1fa498aad6ca080: “I want to to use Jami every day, but because of all those various issues and bugs, I cannot. in real life the communication plays very important role and must be reliable. if I need to call my friend and it starts disconnecting and breaking, I simply delete the apo and instal any alternative that just works fine.”

2025-04-27 08:24:32 (UTC) 53274c8595c309c700f4d39f8d9f338650e4787a5905ed72d1fa498aad6ca080: “I want to to use Jami every day, but because of all those various issues and bugs, I cannot. in real life the communication plays very important role and must be reliable. if I need to call my friend and it starts disconnecting and breaking, I simply delete the apo and instal any alternative that just works fine. this is simple.”,“edit”:“bfb1d6a700dc4e5d7295328d0b7c8e068a5f710d”

2025-04-27 08:30:58 (UTC) 53274c8595c309c700f4d39f8d9f338650e4787a5905ed72d1fa498aad6ca080: “I want to to use Jami every day, but because of all those various issues and bugs, I cannot. in real life the communication plays very important role and must be reliable. if I need to call my friend and it starts disconnecting and breaking, I simply delete the app and instal any alternative that just works. this is simple.”,“edit”:“bfb1d6a700dc4e5d7295328d0b7c8e068a5f710d”

2025-04-27 08:53:41 (UTC) Dantes: “I agree. This is a messenger so the connectivity issues should be CRITICAL. I tried Jami with many people in the last years, but this time I didn’t find anyone willing to try again because it has a very bad reputation due to its unreliability 83d1e I like Jami more than XMPP, but I can trust XMPP clients, not Jami…should try also other P2P messengers, like Briar, to check if they have the same issues. Maybe the P2P messenger is simply too complex for a "standard" messenger)”
2025-04-27 12:04:34 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “Sounds typical”

2025-04-27 17:37:09 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “Looks like Delta Chat is making good progress with P2P”

2025-04-27 17:37:13 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “https://delta.chat/en/2024-11-20-webxdc-realtime”

2025-04-27 17:43:16 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “https://alternativeto.net/news/2024/11/delta-chat-introduces-real-time-p2p-networking-with-hole-punching-and-forward-secret-e2ee/”

2025-04-27 17:49:19 (UTC) 53274c8595c309c700f4d39f8d9f338650e4787a5905ed72d1fa498aad6ca080: “it does not have voice video calls and lots of other stuff jami has.”

2025-04-27 18:10:18 (UTC) Dantes: “Nice, I didn’t know!)”
2025-04-27 18:16:28 (UTC) Dantes: “My Android phone reports that Jami used 23% of battery today 83d”

2025-04-27 18:19:08 (UTC) Dantes: “I found what prevented Jami to sync Desktop and Android… On the smartphone I had the DuckDuckGo "app tracking protection" enabled. Disabling it for Jami the message sync was instananeous”

2025-04-27 18:41:20 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “It does have calls. It also has something Jami doesn't have. Reliable message delivery and working multi device accounts. As well as disappearing messages, message editing etc.)”
2025-04-27 18:42:36 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “That said, I STILL WANT JAMI MESSAGING TO WORK!!! Maybe they can use the p2p technique delta chat uses.”

2025-04-27 18:45:34 (UTC) Dantes: “I’m not sure it’s so easy to switch, even if they want to”

2025-04-27 18:46:35 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “Yeah. I figure. Anyway, just wanted to point out someone seems to have made p2p work reliably so hope Jami can”

2025-04-27 18:48:37 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “What Savoir-Faire/Jami have done and what they're trying to do already is amazing. Multi platform support, p2p, multi-device accounts syncing, for free, as a public good! Years of work. Pretty amazing.”

2025-04-27 18:50:38 (UTC) Dantes: “Yes, I agree. This is why I still try every year to use Jami”

2025-04-27 18:51:00 (UTC) Dantes: “At least to see how the development is going.”

2025-04-28 15:58:10 (UTC) Tomte: “I haven’t tested Briar extensively so I’m not sure about how reliable it is. But Jami seems to be the best p2p so far in regards to nice relatively polished client applications on all the major OSes.”

2025-04-28 15:58:20 (UTC) Tomte: “There are just two things that hold me back:”

2025-04-28 15:58:25 (UTC) Tomte: “1) reliability”

2025-04-28 15:58:43 (UTC) Tomte: “2) a NICE way to export message conversation threads to either text or preferably HTML.”

2025-04-28 15:59:23 (UTC) Tomte: “If Jami can make that happen then I’ll actually start pushing it among my friends and family instead of just playing around with it.”

2025-04-28 16:36:46 (UTC) Tomte: “Welcome bobbert!”

2025-04-28 16:37:02 (UTC) Bobbert: “83d4d”

2025-04-28 16:37:09 (UTC) Bobbert: “Thanks!”

2025-04-28 18:08:16 (UTC) Dantes: “This is CRITICAL. A messenger that can’t guarantee reliability is useless)”
2025-04-28 18:11:30 (UTC) Dantes: “Briar has an interesting feature. You can connect a "companion" app to send/receive messages also when the contacts are not online at the same time. You just need to pair this app to your account and leave it on a smartphone which is always-on somewhere. seems stupid, but it probably fixes a lot of reliablility problems in P2P connections)”
2025-04-28 18:57:17 (UTC) Tomte: “I sort of do the same thing with Jami by leaving the desktop app open all the time on a spare PC I have. Then you’d THINK that my mobile app would have no trouble syncing because there is always an instance online. But for some reason that isn’t the case. :(”

2025-04-28 19:52:37 (UTC) Dantes: “Do you still have problems syncing the android app?”

2025-04-28 22:12:47 (UTC) 电脑01: “https://git.jami.net/savoirfairelinux/jami-client-android/-/issues/1873”

2025-04-29 01:18:31 (UTC) Tomte: “At this moment everything is in sync 83d4f”

2025-04-29 19:36:22 (UTC) Dantes: “I see last 2 messages from "12:12 AM" and "3:18 AM".pc has been on in the last 3 hours and I received the messages only now… :-/”

2025-04-29 19:36:45 (UTC) Dantes: “(9:36PM)”

2025-04-29 21:07:17 (UTC) Tomte: “wow that is quite the delay”

2025-04-29 21:22:12 (UTC) 电脑01: “Apparently there is a problem with the structure of Jami’s network, and users are not able to exchange information with swarm’s network in a timely manner.”

2025-04-30 12:48:12 (UTC) AmarOk: “you can do the same by connecting Jami on another device always up)”
2025-05-01 13:22:30 (UTC) Dantes: “Yes, you are right)”
2025-05-08 16:44:57 (UTC) Tomte: “Welcome ultramike! Our 46th member!”

2025-05-08 16:50:28 (UTC) 8a68542b19ce1e7d1e5910be3cba4e0f85d6279410691ac10adbfab20add5b3e: “hi there, I’m new to jami, i’ve mostly used as messenger conversations so far”

2025-05-08 16:51:08 (UTC) 8a68542b19ce1e7d1e5910be3cba4e0f85d6279410691ac10adbfab20add5b3e: “just want to see how jami compares in terms of usability”

2025-05-08 16:51:33 (UTC) Tomte: “What OSes are you using for Jami?”

2025-05-08 16:52:10 (UTC) 8a68542b19ce1e7d1e5910be3cba4e0f85d6279410691ac10adbfab20add5b3e: “android, macos, ubuntu”

2025-05-08 16:53:24 (UTC) Tomte: “I’m using Ubuntu (linux mint) and Android. Lately it seems very stable on linux, but on mobile (android) sometimes it takes messages longer to show up. At least that is my experience.”

2025-05-09 13:54:26 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “Something I keep having to remember with Jami is that because it's p2p you need a good connection on both ends”

2025-05-09 13:55:23 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “If a person you're messaging doesn't have a good connection or doesn't use Jami enough their OS will put it to sleep”

2025-05-09 14:00:04 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “Seems like developers are constantly playing cat and mouse to catch up with changes in OS for Android and for IOS)”
2025-05-09 14:01:48 (UTC) Tomte: “One thing I don’t understand is the indicator colors on the desktop application. For instance. this is what shows up on one of my Linux boxes”

2025-05-09 14:01:53 (UTC) Tomte: embeddedmedia

2025-05-09 14:02:04 (UTC) Tomte: “orange”

2025-05-09 14:02:36 (UTC) Tomte: “yet on my other linux box, its green”

2025-05-09 14:02:40 (UTC) Tomte: embeddedmedia

2025-05-09 14:02:55 (UTC) Tomte: “both boxes are on the same network, running the same version of Jami”

2025-05-09 14:03:03 (UTC) Tomte: “what is orange supposed to mean, anyway?”

2025-05-09 14:03:44 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “I remember seeing an explanation of the colours some time ago but don't remember where”

2025-05-09 14:04:25 (UTC) Tomte: “aah, I just realized that they are running slightly different versions of Jami.”

2025-05-09 14:04:30 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “I guess there are alot of factors affecting a network connection!”

2025-05-09 14:04:40 (UTC) Tomte: “"orange" box is running 202504301817”

2025-05-09 14:04:45 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “A-ha!)”
2025-05-09 14:04:52 (UTC) Tomte: “but "green" box is running 424”

2025-05-09 14:05:31 (UTC) Tomte: “heh, looks like 424 doesn’t paste images inline either.”

2025-05-09 14:07:05 (UTC) Tomte: “heh, more weirdness is that the box I pasted the image from shows it as inline, but the other box doesn’t.”

2025-05-09 14:07:10 (UTC) Tomte: embeddedmedia

2025-05-09 14:08:41 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “Not able to download images atm for some reason”

2025-05-09 14:09:15 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “Anyway, it seems like messages are pretty robust in this group I'm guessing because people have better Jami set up and check more frequently!”

2025-05-09 14:09:36 (UTC) Tomte: “Same here…I just realized… that is probably why the image isn’t showing up on the "other" box.”

2025-05-09 14:09:53 (UTC) Tomte: “If I click on it it says "image not found"”

2025-05-09 14:10:33 (UTC) Tomte: “it will be interesting to see if they ever sync up, especially considering that the two boxes are less than 15 apart from each other and both connected to LAN through ethernet.”

2025-05-09 14:10:43 (UTC) Tomte: “Jami is so fun! :)”

2025-05-09 14:12:02 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “Is it a big image??”

2025-05-09 14:16:41 (UTC) Tomte: “Holy **** I just updated Jami on the other box, restarted, and now this swarm and the other one have gone missing on that box!”

2025-05-09 14:17:45 (UTC) Tomte: “Last time this happened, the swarm eventually disappeared on all my clients when I restarted them. So I will try to keep this one up and running for as long as possible so as not to be locked out.”

2025-05-09 14:17:59 (UTC) Tomte: “Last time this happened, it took over a month for the forum to appear again (after an update)”

2025-05-09 14:20:16 (UTC) Tomte: “No, its only 60k”

2025-05-09 14:23:17 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “Oh 6390f”

2025-05-09 14:28:53 (UTC) Tomte: “very weird…both images are in the conversation data folder, despite the erorr message about it being missing”

2025-05-09 14:30:29 (UTC) Tomte: “aah I see things finally synced up on my side. At least locally here I can now see all the images.”

2025-05-09 14:31:46 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “Yep same here. I guess swarms take longer??”

2025-05-10 11:09:27 (UTC) twelfty: “I only just received this message of the thread. I had this happen the other day. I removed the account, then added it back and everything appeared again. I also turned the account off on other devices and that seemed to stop it happening. Not a long term solution obv)”
2025-05-10 11:43:11 (UTC) twelfty: “I'm noticing some messages don't appear in a thread until you close and re-open Jami”

2025-05-10 17:23:20 (UTC) Tomte: “Yeah, I’m seeing some weird thing happen too. Messages won’t show up properly but if it close Jami and open it again then they show up.”

2025-05-10 17:23:47 (UTC) Tomte: “At least my problem with the forum disappearing fixed itself right away after stopping and starting Jami again.”

2025-05-10 17:25:20 (UTC) Tomte: “Interesting that you are saying it seems to be related to having multiple devices with the same account. Because for a few months I haven’t seen any problems, but I was only using this account from one device. But in the last two weeks I added the other two devices and now weird things are happening. :(”

2025-05-11 11:59:48 (UTC) AmarOk: “presence is there, but there is no p2p link yet)”
2025-05-11 12:00:21 (UTC) AmarOk: “green you got a p2p link in progress”

2025-05-14 17:03:40 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “A few tips I've noticed this week.”

2025-05-14 17:04:04 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “Closing and re-opening Jami seems to refresh when syncing not working.”

2025-05-14 17:04:29 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “Also getting the person you're messaging to open and send messages seems to revive the connection”

2025-05-14 20:54:14 (UTC) Tomte: “Yeah, I’ve been experiencing that this week as well. Didn’t seem to be as big of a problem before the last update.”

2025-05-14 20:55:50 (UTC) Tomte: “On a different topic, I’ve been trying to write a bash script that will export the conversation chat data out of Jami. I really want to see an official plugin to do this, but in the meantime I’ve been playing around with the "git log" commands, and then trying to pretty up output using a number of kludges.”

2025-05-14 20:56:34 (UTC) Tomte: “It’s a real hack, but if you want to see the output I’ve put it at this link: https://iscabbs.rocks/hacked.html”

2025-05-14 20:57:04 (UTC) Tomte: “Once I get it better, it might be a way to host online archives for forums such as this one.”

2025-05-14 21:15:34 (UTC) Tomte: “here’s my script in case anyone is interested and wants to build upon this shaky foundation. :)”

2025-05-14 21:15:36 (UTC) Tomte: “https://iscabbs.rocks/jamiposts.sh.txt”

2025-05-16 16:49:30 (UTC) Tomte: “Looks like a new version of Jami dropped yesterday! Time to update! :)”

2025-05-20 14:48:14 (UTC) Tomte: “another fun Jami bug… I just invited someone with unicode in their user name to this conversation, but it isn’t showing their user name, instead saying "e1ce0d820….." etc was invited to join the conversation.”

2025-05-20 14:48:25 (UTC) Tomte: “Does everyone see it that way in the chat? Or is it just me?”

2025-05-20 17:33:58 (UTC) Bamalamajamagram: “I see it the way you describe it”

2025-05-20 20:54:01 (UTC) 电脑01: “Maybe it has something to do with the coding the system uses”

2025-05-21 12:41:14 (UTC) AmarOk: “https://labs.withsecure.com/publications/keepass-trojanised-in-advanced-malware-campaign”

2025-05-21 15:27:05 (UTC) Tomte: “Wow… I use keepass pretty extensively, although not this malware version. Amazing how sophisticated attackers are getting these days.”

2025-05-22 16:15:07 (UTC) Dantes: “Which "package" of version do you use? I’m using the Snap version”

2025-05-22 16:55:14 (UTC) Tomte: “I use the deb package for Jami”

2025-05-22 19:36:39 (UTC) Dantes: “Which "package" of Jami do you use? I’m using the Snap version”,“edit”:“d3feaa29637234c5fc2d54eda37f3c25988318df”

2025-05-22 19:37:36 (UTC) Dantes: “I’ve edited the message above after ~3h. Do you see it modified?original message was"Which "package" of version" now corrected in "Which "package" of Jami"”

2025-05-22 21:00:38 (UTC) Tomte: “I see the edited version”

2025-05-22 22:16:13 (UTC) AmarOk: “yes”